50 - The Mysterious Deaths at Greystone Mansion
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50 - The Mysterious Deaths at Greystone Mansion

Despite two people witnessing the crime occur and a police investigation that was quickly closed, many still wonder what REALLY happened the night of February, 16th 1929 at Greystone Mansion in Beverly Hills, California. Was it a murder or suicide? Was the motive revenge, jealousy or anger? Join Heather, Elena and Melanie as they discuss this incredible property (hint, you’ve probably seen in before in TV and movies!) as well as the incredibly story of the Doheny fortune, the political scandal that threatened it all and the grand estate where it all occurred. 

The Real Estate: Greystone Mansion, Beverly Hills |  905 Loma Vista Drive in Beverly Hills, California.

Show Notes & Sources: https://www.crimeestate.com

This episode edited by the oh-so-talented, Elena

[00:00:04] At the intersection of true crime and real estate, you'll find Crime Estate.

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[00:00:27] Hey y'all, welcome back to Crime Estate and we have quite the story and house.

[00:00:32] Or should I say mansion for you today?

[00:00:34] I'm Heather and I'm joined as always by my co-host and fellow real estate agent, Elena

[00:00:38] and our friend, producer and commentator Melanie.

[00:00:41] Hey ladies.

[00:00:41] Hey girls.

[00:00:42] Hello.

[00:00:44] So we started texting us about this one earlier this week and first we were like, how do we

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[00:02:08] And maybe Elena, that is the perfect segue into today's story because

[00:02:12] despite the fact that the house we are covering was the epitome of

[00:02:16] safety for its time complete with manned guard houses stationed all

[00:02:20] around the property and a gated entry.

[00:02:23] None of that stopped the crime that occurred on February 16th, 1929.

[00:02:28] Now let me back up a bit.

[00:02:30] Graystow Mansion was built in 1928 by Edward Lawrence Doheny for his son

[00:02:35] and only living child who not surprisingly was also named Edward

[00:02:39] Lawrence Doheny, Jr., but went by Ned.

[00:02:43] Is Ned always short for Edward?

[00:02:45] I've never heard that as a short.

[00:02:46] Okay.

[00:02:47] I feel like it probably is.

[00:02:49] It's always interesting.

[00:02:51] Some of these like, you know, short that we've fallen out of

[00:02:54] fashion like, you know, Richard and Dick.

[00:02:56] But yeah, I think the whole name Ned is probably also a little out

[00:03:00] of fashion, but was probably very popular in the 20s.

[00:03:03] That's right.

[00:03:04] So in 1925, Edward Sr.'s net worth was estimated to be a hundred

[00:03:10] million dollars or 1.74 billion in today's dollars, making him

[00:03:16] more wealthy at the time than John D. Rockefeller.

[00:03:19] It's crazy.

[00:03:19] So was he born into money and how did he get so wealthy?

[00:03:22] Yeah, no, he wasn't born into money.

[00:03:23] In fact, he was born in Wisconsin and started out as a

[00:03:26] gold prospector, which then led him to begin prospecting for oil.

[00:03:31] And he and a buddy were actually the very first people to strike

[00:03:34] oil in LA, which given what we noted about his net worth was

[00:03:38] apparently very lucrative.

[00:03:40] Now they went on to also have oil discoveries in Mexico and

[00:03:43] combined they became at one time the largest producers of

[00:03:46] oil in the world.

[00:03:48] From Ed's first marriage, he had two children, but only

[00:03:51] Ned lived to adulthood.

[00:03:53] So when Ned married Lucy Smith, Edward Sr. built them a home

[00:03:57] as a wedding gift at 905 Loma Vista Drive in Beverly Hills,

[00:04:02] California.

[00:04:02] Wait, was that a thing in the early 1900s?

[00:04:05] Wait, a different story where mom and dad built their kids

[00:04:07] a house as a wedding gift?

[00:04:09] I was trying to look which one it was.

[00:04:11] Might have been the Spreckles in San Diego because I do

[00:04:15] feel like there's been a few of these like older historic

[00:04:18] mansions that came in from the family.

[00:04:21] Yeah, I actually did a little bit of research to see if

[00:04:23] like this was a custom in the early 1900s.

[00:04:26] And from what I can tell it doesn't seem to be, although

[00:04:29] it is a custom in China and some other Asian cultures for

[00:04:32] the parents to buy the son a home prior to the wedding

[00:04:36] or for a wedding gift.

[00:04:37] I think this falls into the RBS category, the rich

[00:04:42] people shit.

[00:04:42] Yeah.

[00:04:43] Yeah.

[00:04:43] RPS.

[00:04:44] Oh, RPS.

[00:04:46] Well, that's good.

[00:04:47] RBS.

[00:04:48] We all have boys.

[00:04:49] So I guess that's a good that that's not a thing anymore.

[00:04:52] Yeah, I mean, it would not be happening here for sure.

[00:04:55] Now the Beverly Hills of the late 1920s is far different

[00:04:59] than it is today.

[00:05:00] Today this mansion, which you know, spoiler alert still

[00:05:03] exists sits upon the hills of far eastern Beverly

[00:05:06] Hills.

[00:05:07] But back then this was considered ranch land with

[00:05:10] barren hillside and pine trees.

[00:05:12] So it was kind of pretty far out there.

[00:05:15] I think I read one thing that they were saying sometimes

[00:05:16] took them 45 minutes to get into town, which

[00:05:19] is funny because it's actually very centrally located

[00:05:22] today.

[00:05:23] Yeah.

[00:05:23] So let me tell you a little bit about this house.

[00:05:26] I say as I make quotation marks in the air because

[00:05:28] this was really more of a compound.

[00:05:30] The sprawling stone and Tudor revival mansion was

[00:05:33] over 46,000 square feet, totaling 55 rooms.

[00:05:37] And it set on 429 acres with sweeping city views

[00:05:42] viewed from broad terraces.

[00:05:43] So to your point, Mel, like it was out there to

[00:05:45] have to be to get almost 430 acres.

[00:05:48] Oh yeah.

[00:05:48] Can you imagine?

[00:05:49] It was up on, you know, on hilltop.

[00:05:52] We've done a few of these stories where they like

[00:05:54] to build these mansions, I guess, you know, up on

[00:05:56] a hilltop overlooking the town below, overlooking

[00:05:58] their kingdom.

[00:05:59] Yeah, exactly.

[00:06:00] I mean, this is kind of US aristocracy.

[00:06:03] Yes, absolutely.

[00:06:04] And Greystone Mansion was designed by Gordon

[00:06:07] Kaufman, a prominent architect whose work

[00:06:09] included the Hoover Dam and the Los Angeles

[00:06:12] Times building.

[00:06:13] Well, diversity.

[00:06:14] Yeah.

[00:06:14] So another description I read in an article

[00:06:16] from PBS described the property saying the 55

[00:06:20] room mansion included a bowling alley with a

[00:06:22] hidden bar, walls made of leaded glass, a main

[00:06:26] hall of checkered Carrera marble, a personal

[00:06:29] switchboard, secret passageways and grand

[00:06:32] rooms filled with European antiques.

[00:06:34] The exquisite grounds, including an 80 foot

[00:06:37] waterfall, which could be turned on with a

[00:06:39] switch, stables, riding trails, a swimming

[00:06:42] pool, kennel and the still awe inspiring

[00:06:45] Renaissance inspired Cypress Lane were

[00:06:48] designed by landscape architect Paul

[00:06:50] Thien.

[00:06:51] According to Thien's main designer, Emile

[00:06:53] Cool, the sky was the limit.

[00:06:55] I would ask Mr.

[00:06:56] Thien what the client might want.

[00:06:58] Give them everything was the reply.

[00:07:00] Thank you.

[00:07:01] Must be nice.

[00:07:01] Is that what you said when you had this

[00:07:03] house built?

[00:07:03] Oh, sure.

[00:07:04] I did.

[00:07:05] I was like, wait, what is the cheapest

[00:07:07] grass we can put it?

[00:07:08] OK, so just for fun and because I'm a

[00:07:10] little nosy, I did a search to see if

[00:07:12] there have been any 46,000 square foot

[00:07:15] homes sold in Dallas.

[00:07:16] What do you think?

[00:07:17] Well, we do like everything bigger in

[00:07:18] Texas.

[00:07:19] Yes.

[00:07:20] And but believe it or not, it was hard

[00:07:22] to find very many on market sales of

[00:07:25] homes of this size.

[00:07:27] The largest sale in terms of square

[00:07:28] footage that I could find report reported

[00:07:31] in our local MLS was sold at auction

[00:07:32] in 2016 for thirty five million dollars.

[00:07:35] And if you want to know that will buy

[00:07:37] you in Texas, the description of the

[00:07:39] property read, welcome to shop door

[00:07:41] or fields of gold.

[00:07:43] The best opportunity in Texas, a 48,000

[00:07:46] square foot mansion on 40 plus acres

[00:07:48] with a one and a half acre lake,

[00:07:50] grand seating for up to 450 grand

[00:07:53] ballroom, multiple kitchens, full

[00:07:55] rocket ball court, bowling alley,

[00:07:58] in and out pools and ability to add

[00:08:00] a heliport, unparalleled luxury with

[00:08:03] ideal privacy mere minutes to Dallas.

[00:08:05] However, OK, that's that's a nice

[00:08:07] little realtor right up.

[00:08:09] The best description of this property

[00:08:10] comes from D magazine, who is always

[00:08:13] like willing to tell it like it is.

[00:08:15] They name the property the biggest

[00:08:18] little teardown in Texas scathingly

[00:08:20] riding in the distance.

[00:08:21] You'll see something so huge and so

[00:08:23] incongruous in its French Baroque

[00:08:25] meets Plano McMansion mashup that

[00:08:28] it seems more hallucination than

[00:08:30] house.

[00:08:30] Same right?

[00:08:32] That's biting.

[00:08:33] Yeah.

[00:08:33] But enough about the house in Texas.

[00:08:35] Let's return to Greystone Mansion

[00:08:36] and Beverly Hills in the late 1920s.

[00:08:39] At this time, the home was the second

[00:08:41] largest in California, second only

[00:08:43] to the famous Hearst Mansion.

[00:08:45] Not surprisingly, when it was built,

[00:08:47] it was the most expensive home in

[00:08:48] California costing over three point

[00:08:50] one million dollars to build in nineteen

[00:08:52] twenty eight.

[00:08:54] What are your guesses as to what

[00:08:56] that is in today's dollars?

[00:08:57] Well, I don't have a guess.

[00:08:58] I don't know.

[00:08:59] I always feel like whatever the

[00:09:00] conversion rate, it doesn't seem

[00:09:02] quite as much as we know it really

[00:09:04] would be.

[00:09:05] Yeah, I think you're right.

[00:09:06] So in today's dollars, just based

[00:09:08] on the conversion rate, it was fifty

[00:09:09] five million dollars.

[00:09:10] But I think it would probably cost

[00:09:11] more than that to build it.

[00:09:12] Yeah.

[00:09:13] Now, yeah.

[00:09:14] And that is quite the wedding present,

[00:09:16] which Doheny Sr.

[00:09:18] sold to his son for the grand

[00:09:19] total of ten dollars.

[00:09:21] What the heck?

[00:09:22] Well, he did have to transfer the

[00:09:24] ownership somehow, right?

[00:09:25] I just can't believe that's just

[00:09:27] my parents said all wrong.

[00:09:30] We'll call him up.

[00:09:32] So when the house was finished,

[00:09:34] it included stables, gyms,

[00:09:36] swimming pools, a bowling alley

[00:09:37] like we said, ballrooms, screening

[00:09:39] rooms and more.

[00:09:40] It even included included its own

[00:09:42] switchboard and telephone system.

[00:09:44] And I could go on to describe this

[00:09:46] house in more detail, but I bet

[00:09:48] that you can all picture it yourself

[00:09:50] because it has been in countless

[00:09:51] shows and movies and its

[00:09:53] descending staircase is considered

[00:09:55] to be one of the most iconic

[00:09:57] movie sets of our time.

[00:09:59] I personally recognized it as

[00:10:01] Chilton, the elite private

[00:10:03] school that Rory Gilmore attends

[00:10:04] in Gilmore Girls.

[00:10:06] Did you guys watch that show?

[00:10:07] Of course.

[00:10:09] OK, wow, you're you're taking your

[00:10:12] your card.

[00:10:13] I don't know.

[00:10:14] You're a gen.

[00:10:16] Here's your next card.

[00:10:17] Yeah, well, I don't know.

[00:10:19] What generation are we?

[00:10:20] Elderly.

[00:10:21] I'm Jen X, but I think y'all

[00:10:24] might be like right in the cusp

[00:10:25] of the zenial.

[00:10:27] Is he like that?

[00:10:28] Like your generation.

[00:10:29] We're definitely not millennials.

[00:10:31] When I was pregnant with my son,

[00:10:33] I didn't know he was a boy yet

[00:10:34] and I was really rooting hard

[00:10:35] for Rory or Lorelai to be the

[00:10:37] girl's name.

[00:10:38] And my husband was like, no,

[00:10:39] absolutely not.

[00:10:40] But I am like the biggest Gilmore

[00:10:42] Girls fan.

[00:10:43] Rory's boy's name too.

[00:10:44] Yes.

[00:10:45] But you know, at the time I was

[00:10:47] picturing sweet little Rory

[00:10:48] Gilmore. Yes.

[00:10:50] However, if you are not the

[00:10:51] Gilmore's Girl fan that I am,

[00:10:53] you might also recognize this

[00:10:55] house from such varied films as

[00:10:57] In Descent Proposal X-Men,

[00:11:00] Coates Buster's Do, The Big

[00:11:01] Lebowski and There Will Be Blood,

[00:11:04] another story which in large

[00:11:05] part was based on the life of

[00:11:07] Edward Doheny Sr.

[00:11:08] Oh, it comes back now.

[00:11:11] All right. But back to the story.

[00:11:13] Being the only son, Ned is the

[00:11:15] heir apparent to his father's

[00:11:16] oil empire.

[00:11:17] And while Greystone Mansion is

[00:11:18] being built, there is a serious

[00:11:20] business controversy brewing.

[00:11:23] You see the secretary of the

[00:11:25] interior under President

[00:11:26] Warren Harding, a man by the

[00:11:27] name of Albert Baconfall,

[00:11:30] who interestingly enough,

[00:11:31] ladies was an old mining buddy

[00:11:33] of Edward Doheny Sr.

[00:11:35] Had leased Navy petroleum reserves

[00:11:37] to private companies without

[00:11:39] putting the leases out for

[00:11:40] competitive bidding.

[00:11:42] For example, the Elks Hill Reserve

[00:11:44] and the San Joaquin, thank you.

[00:11:47] The Elks Hill Reserve and the

[00:11:48] San Joaquin Valley east of LA

[00:11:50] was leased to Edward Doheny

[00:11:51] Sr. and his company, the Pan

[00:11:53] American Petroleum and Transport

[00:11:55] Company.

[00:11:56] While initially discovered in

[00:11:57] 1912, the Elks Hill Fields

[00:11:59] capacity was considered to be

[00:12:01] significant enough that

[00:12:03] President Warren, that

[00:12:05] President William Howard Taft,

[00:12:07] concerned about the long term

[00:12:08] availability of petroleum for the

[00:12:09] US Navy designated the region

[00:12:12] as the nation's first naval

[00:12:13] petroleum reserve.

[00:12:15] Similarly, the Teapot Dome Reserve

[00:12:17] in Wyoming was leased to Harry

[00:12:19] F. Sinclair of the Sinclair

[00:12:20] Oil Corporation.

[00:12:22] Now technically everything I've

[00:12:23] told you so far is all above

[00:12:24] board.

[00:12:25] It was legal at this time to

[00:12:28] lease out these reserves without

[00:12:29] competitive bidding and he had

[00:12:31] been told to lease them out by

[00:12:33] the president.

[00:12:33] So check, check.

[00:12:35] Everything's above board so far.

[00:12:37] The controversy arose when the

[00:12:38] secretary of the interior was

[00:12:40] accused of taking bribes in

[00:12:42] order to secure the lease

[00:12:43] contracts with both Edward

[00:12:45] Doheny Sr.

[00:12:46] and Harry Sinclair.

[00:12:48] That's bad.

[00:12:49] Yeah.

[00:12:49] Bribes are bad.

[00:12:51] Big no no.

[00:12:52] So according to the allegations

[00:12:54] against Secretary Faw, Doheny

[00:12:55] Sr. provided him with

[00:12:57] $100,000 in a

[00:12:59] no interest loan in 1921.

[00:13:01] And you know all of these

[00:13:03] allegations about corruption

[00:13:04] and bribery really didn't come

[00:13:06] out until a few years later when

[00:13:07] everybody started getting a

[00:13:09] little bit suspicious of how

[00:13:10] secretary was living.

[00:13:11] He had like paid off the taxes

[00:13:13] on a ranch that had been,

[00:13:14] you know, past due for 10

[00:13:16] years and his life status

[00:13:18] elevated very quickly, which

[00:13:20] which raised some eyebrows.

[00:13:22] And so just to help keep the

[00:13:24] timeline of events straight for

[00:13:26] our listeners, the allegations

[00:13:27] against Secretary Faw started

[00:13:29] swirling six years before

[00:13:31] Ned and his family moved into

[00:13:33] Greystone Mansion.

[00:13:35] Now, as you might imagine, this

[00:13:36] put Doheny Sr. and Ned under

[00:13:38] intense scrutiny.

[00:13:40] Investigators alleged that the

[00:13:41] $100,000 quote unquote loan was

[00:13:44] hand delivered in an infamous

[00:13:45] black bag to Secretary Faw

[00:13:47] in person by none other than

[00:13:50] Ned and Ned's trustee

[00:13:51] secretary Hugh Plunkett.

[00:13:53] Hugh wasn't just an ordinary

[00:13:55] employee of the family, but

[00:13:56] also a close friend of Ned's

[00:13:58] since childhood.

[00:13:59] In fact, he was the one tasked

[00:14:01] with overseeing the day to day

[00:14:02] building operations of Greystone

[00:14:04] Mansion.

[00:14:05] According to a PBS article I read,

[00:14:07] Hugh often signed checks for Mr.

[00:14:09] Doheny totaling hundreds of

[00:14:11] thousands of dollars.

[00:14:12] He attended to most of the

[00:14:14] details of the new home and

[00:14:15] actually paid the contractor's

[00:14:17] bills with checks made out in

[00:14:18] Mr. Doheny's name.

[00:14:21] Now, I'm not really sure what a

[00:14:22] media storm look like in the

[00:14:24] early to late 1920s.

[00:14:26] You know, I'm sure it looked a

[00:14:27] lot different than scandals

[00:14:28] that break today.

[00:14:29] But up until Watergate in 1972,

[00:14:32] the Teapot Dome scandal, as it

[00:14:34] was called, was considered to be

[00:14:35] the biggest political scandal

[00:14:37] to rock DC

[00:14:39] ever. And Doheny senior

[00:14:42] Ned and Hugh found themselves

[00:14:44] right in the middle of it.

[00:14:46] All of this occurred under the

[00:14:47] administration of President

[00:14:48] Warren G. Harding, which is

[00:14:50] now commonly considered to be one

[00:14:52] of the most corrupt in U.S.

[00:14:54] history.

[00:14:54] I'm really excited to hear about

[00:14:56] this great big scandal and

[00:14:57] politics as it were back then

[00:15:00] because there's so much more

[00:15:01] scandal in today's politics.

[00:15:03] So it's going to be fun to see

[00:15:04] this play out.

[00:15:06] OK, well, good. I'm glad you're

[00:15:07] looking forward to it.

[00:15:08] I'm ready. Let's do this.

[00:15:10] All right. So Doheny senior

[00:15:12] went on to be indicted for

[00:15:14] bribery because of his loan to

[00:15:16] Secretary fall.

[00:15:17] But when the case went to trial

[00:15:18] in 1926, both Doheny and

[00:15:21] fall were acquitted of all

[00:15:22] charges of bribery and

[00:15:23] defrauding the government.

[00:15:25] So according to the Homestead

[00:15:26] Museum blog, after

[00:15:28] escaping conviction in the 1926

[00:15:31] trial, Doheny took the train back

[00:15:33] to Los Angeles where on 21

[00:15:35] December he was received by a

[00:15:36] welcoming committee composed

[00:15:38] of many of the most powerful and

[00:15:40] well connected business and

[00:15:41] political figures in the region.

[00:15:44] After stepping off the train,

[00:15:45] his arm in a sling because of

[00:15:47] an infection said to be

[00:15:48] exacerbated by the stress of

[00:15:49] his trial.

[00:15:51] Doheny attested his acquittal

[00:15:52] to the fact that his defense

[00:15:53] was, quote, properly presented

[00:15:56] before a typical American jury.

[00:15:58] He added, I am delighted to be

[00:16:00] home again and I'm looking

[00:16:01] forward to one of the happiest

[00:16:02] Christmas days with my family,

[00:16:04] my grandchildren and my friends.

[00:16:06] And I think ladies, it's safe to

[00:16:08] say that everyone in the

[00:16:09] Doheny family was relieved

[00:16:10] by the outcome of the trial.

[00:16:12] But unfortunately, a second

[00:16:14] trial loomed.

[00:16:15] And so I was curious about

[00:16:17] this and I did a lot of

[00:16:18] digging.

[00:16:19] And I don't know that I came

[00:16:20] across a concise answer.

[00:16:22] But my understanding is the

[00:16:24] first trial

[00:16:26] he was indicted for conspiracy

[00:16:29] or conspiring to defraud the

[00:16:30] government.

[00:16:32] And when they went back and

[00:16:34] tried him again, they were

[00:16:35] trying him for bribery.

[00:16:37] OK, so similar but different

[00:16:38] crimes.

[00:16:41] And unfortunately, the stress

[00:16:42] of yet another trial was just

[00:16:44] a lot for this family to bear.

[00:16:46] In particular, Hugh Plunkett,

[00:16:48] who remember was Ned Doheny's

[00:16:49] friend and secretary, was under

[00:16:51] immense pressure.

[00:16:52] That same PBS article I

[00:16:54] referenced earlier noted that on

[00:16:56] Christmas Eve, Hugh supposedly

[00:16:57] suffered a complete nervous

[00:16:59] breakdown and was put in the

[00:17:01] care of the family doctor, Dr.

[00:17:03] Ernest Clyde Fishball.

[00:17:05] By February, the Doheny Circle

[00:17:08] claim that Hugh was completely

[00:17:10] unhinged.

[00:17:11] According to Dr. Fishball on

[00:17:12] the afternoon of February 16th,

[00:17:14] he, Ned and Lucy confronted

[00:17:16] Hugh.

[00:17:17] They urged him to take a

[00:17:18] rest at a sanitarium.

[00:17:20] Was this to get a mental help

[00:17:22] or to exempt him from testifying

[00:17:23] at Falls Upcoming Trial?

[00:17:25] Or both?

[00:17:26] We will never know.

[00:17:28] Whatever the case, the doctor

[00:17:29] claimed that Hugh refused.

[00:17:31] He simply sat there almost

[00:17:32] shaking at times, hands clenched.

[00:17:35] Jal said at times he said he

[00:17:36] would come out of it all right.

[00:17:38] I could see it was no use to

[00:17:39] push him further.

[00:17:40] And so I left.

[00:17:42] That's really sad.

[00:17:43] Part of me wants to think that

[00:17:44] maybe he was really so stressed

[00:17:47] and they cared so much about him

[00:17:48] and they wanted him to be well.

[00:17:50] I hope that's what it was.

[00:17:51] Yeah, I love that.

[00:17:52] And I love you for thinking that.

[00:17:54] You always see the good in people.

[00:17:55] And look, it's totally possible.

[00:17:58] I should add here, though, that

[00:17:59] there were rumors also circulating

[00:18:01] at the time that Doheny and Plunkett

[00:18:03] had a romantic relationship.

[00:18:05] Oh, to the spin you weren't expecting.

[00:18:08] I was not. Yeah, as a plot twist.

[00:18:10] Yeah. And I mean, that would not

[00:18:11] have gone over well at the time.

[00:18:13] But I only mention it because

[00:18:14] this rumor plays into one of the

[00:18:16] theories as to what happens next.

[00:18:19] On the night of February 16th,

[00:18:21] 1929, only months after moving

[00:18:22] into Greystone Mansion and after

[00:18:25] having visited Hugh earlier in the

[00:18:26] day in order to try and convince

[00:18:28] him to check himself into a sanitarium.

[00:18:30] Hugh shows up at Greystone Mansion.

[00:18:32] Now this is an odd and maybe

[00:18:34] didn't even necessarily pertain

[00:18:36] to the argument earlier in the day.

[00:18:38] You know, by all accounts, he's

[00:18:40] you know, Doheny's right hand man

[00:18:41] when it comes to business.

[00:18:43] And with this 55,000 square foot

[00:18:45] house, Hugh Plunkett actually had

[00:18:47] his own guest room for his use

[00:18:48] whenever he needed it on the

[00:18:50] first floor of the house.

[00:18:52] What happens next, though, is both

[00:18:53] a mystery and not really

[00:18:56] a mystery.

[00:18:57] We know that shortly after Hugh

[00:18:58] arrives at Greystone Mansion,

[00:19:00] Lucy Doheny places a call around

[00:19:02] 10 30 p.m. to the family physician,

[00:19:04] the one who was also treating

[00:19:06] Ned, Dr. Fishbaugh.

[00:19:08] Now, Dr. Fishbaugh isn't at home

[00:19:09] that evening. He's actually in

[00:19:10] Hollywood attending the theater.

[00:19:12] But after Lucy calls his house,

[00:19:14] his maid calls the theater and told

[00:19:16] him that Mrs.

[00:19:16] Donahue needed him as soon as

[00:19:18] possible.

[00:19:19] I mean, that's pretty diligent in

[00:19:21] a time period before they had

[00:19:22] cell phones.

[00:19:24] Like, I mean, yeah,

[00:19:26] I'm just trying to picture that

[00:19:27] order of events. That's

[00:19:28] interesting. Yeah.

[00:19:30] And my guess is, I mean, this is

[00:19:31] like your concierge doctor, right?

[00:19:34] Yeah.

[00:19:34] And so he probably every time he

[00:19:36] leaves the house, he's like,

[00:19:37] here's where I'll be. Call me

[00:19:38] if there's an emergency.

[00:19:39] Yeah, right. This is probably

[00:19:40] he's on a retainer for

[00:19:42] for this family.

[00:19:45] So within the next half hour,

[00:19:46] Dr. Fishbaugh arrives at

[00:19:48] Greystone Mansion and he speaks

[00:19:49] with both Lucy Dohani and Hugh

[00:19:51] Plunkett.

[00:19:52] Hugh was standing in the door of

[00:19:54] his guest bedroom and as Dr.

[00:19:55] Fishbaugh approached, he

[00:19:57] warned him not to come any

[00:19:58] closer before turning around,

[00:20:00] going into the guest bedroom and

[00:20:02] shutting the door.

[00:20:03] Within seconds of Hugh is

[00:20:04] shutting the door, Lucy and Dr.

[00:20:06] Fishbaugh heard a gunshot.

[00:20:08] When they rushed into the room

[00:20:09] they found Hugh laying on the

[00:20:10] floor by the door with a gun

[00:20:12] shot wound to his head.

[00:20:14] The gun was laying next to

[00:20:15] him.

[00:20:16] Sadly, they also found Ned

[00:20:17] Dohani shot and laying

[00:20:19] beside the bed.

[00:20:20] He had a gunshot wound to the

[00:20:22] head but was still clinging to

[00:20:24] life.

[00:20:25] Now, I'm going to give Lucy and

[00:20:26] Dr. Fishbaugh a little bit of

[00:20:27] grace here because I expect that

[00:20:28] the two immediately jumped into

[00:20:30] lifesaving measures for Ned.

[00:20:32] But the grace only goes so far

[00:20:33] because as it turns out they

[00:20:35] did not call the authorities

[00:20:36] until three hours later.

[00:20:39] Thanks.

[00:20:40] The whole thing is spooky.

[00:20:41] So like what caused her to

[00:20:43] call the doctor in the first

[00:20:44] place?

[00:20:46] That's what I was wondering.

[00:20:46] Yeah, well we don't really know.

[00:20:49] Everybody was very tight-lipped

[00:20:50] about what happened and

[00:20:52] presumably in three hours they

[00:20:53] can all get their stories

[00:20:54] very straight.

[00:20:56] So I read a great blog on this

[00:20:58] case. Interestingly enough on

[00:21:00] the Petroleum Service

[00:21:00] Company's website, random.

[00:21:03] So they're taking, they're

[00:21:04] owning this part of their

[00:21:05] history? I think so, yes.

[00:21:07] So it says at this point things

[00:21:08] get a little fishy.

[00:21:10] Witness testimony says that

[00:21:11] Plunkett told everyone in the

[00:21:13] house not to come any closer to

[00:21:15] the bedroom.

[00:21:16] At first Dr. Fishball said that

[00:21:17] he'd shut the door softly.

[00:21:19] However, later he recalled him

[00:21:21] slamming the door in a rage.

[00:21:23] Testimony from the staff also

[00:21:24] sounded a little too neat,

[00:21:26] perhaps rehearsed, a possibility

[00:21:28] given that again the police

[00:21:29] were not called until the scene

[00:21:30] until three hours after the gun

[00:21:32] shot.

[00:21:33] When investigators did arrive

[00:21:34] they found Doheny dead on his

[00:21:36] back in his underwear and silk

[00:21:37] bathrobe with a gunshot wound

[00:21:40] in the back of his school.

[00:21:41] Now I'm going to break from

[00:21:43] this and say remember he came

[00:21:45] well, Ned Doheny is already at

[00:21:47] the house, right? So he's

[00:21:48] dressed for bed and then

[00:21:50] he shows up.

[00:21:51] He was found dead, spread

[00:21:53] eagle on his stomach, a large

[00:21:55] pool of blood was beneath his

[00:21:56] face caused by a gunshot wound

[00:21:57] to his head and an unfinished

[00:21:59] cigarette was still trapped

[00:22:01] under his fingers.

[00:22:02] In fact, the cigarette had

[00:22:04] burned the fingers on his

[00:22:05] left hand.

[00:22:06] The gun, a Beasley,

[00:22:09] Beisley, B-I-S-L-E-Y,

[00:22:10] I don't know how you pronounce

[00:22:11] that, 45 Colt revolver

[00:22:13] was found underneath Hues

[00:22:15] body.

[00:22:16] Evidence at the scene indicated

[00:22:17] that both men had been drinking.

[00:22:19] Powder burns were found around

[00:22:20] the wound on Ned's head,

[00:22:22] but no evidence of powder burns

[00:22:24] were found on Hues body.

[00:22:26] This evidence pointed away from

[00:22:28] the story that Hugh killed Ned

[00:22:30] and then killed himself.

[00:22:32] It was later admitted, however,

[00:22:33] that the bodies had been moved

[00:22:35] before the police arrived.

[00:22:37] Wait, they were they moved the

[00:22:38] bodies?

[00:22:39] Yeah. And I mean, I can see

[00:22:41] moving Ned's because they were

[00:22:43] probably like trying to perform

[00:22:44] CPR.

[00:22:45] But they have CPR back in the

[00:22:47] 20s.

[00:22:48] We'll call it life saving measures.

[00:22:51] You know, surely they still knew

[00:22:52] how to like apply pressure to a

[00:22:54] bleeding wing.

[00:22:56] And I'm with you. I agree. It's

[00:22:58] odd. So do investigators.

[00:23:00] However, the case was

[00:23:01] officially closed only two days

[00:23:03] later when the police

[00:23:04] determined that Hugh Plunkett

[00:23:06] shot and killed Ned Doheny

[00:23:08] and then waited almost a half

[00:23:10] hour until Dr.

[00:23:11] Fishball arrived before

[00:23:13] killing himself.

[00:23:14] OK, so just to go back

[00:23:16] the order of events, that means

[00:23:18] that Ned had been sitting

[00:23:20] there dying for at least

[00:23:23] 30 minutes or so before he

[00:23:25] committed suicide.

[00:23:27] According to the official reports,

[00:23:29] yes, I like your caveat.

[00:23:32] I don't like any of it.

[00:23:33] None of it makes sense.

[00:23:35] No, I agree.

[00:23:36] Yeah.

[00:23:37] So what are some of the other

[00:23:38] theories here then?

[00:23:40] Ladies, I mean, it's possible

[00:23:41] that when that what the police

[00:23:43] say happened may be actually

[00:23:44] happened.

[00:23:45] This is interesting. So a recent

[00:23:47] study on the difference between

[00:23:49] homicides themselves and a

[00:23:51] homicide suicide incident

[00:23:52] by the National Institute of

[00:23:54] Health Reports, that homicide

[00:23:56] suicide incidents usually

[00:23:57] include one victim and one

[00:23:59] perpetrator.

[00:24:00] In a majority of these

[00:24:02] incidents, the homicide

[00:24:03] perpetrator is male and older

[00:24:06] than the victim likely to be

[00:24:07] white with perhaps a history

[00:24:09] of depression and or mental

[00:24:11] illness.

[00:24:12] And victims of these incidents

[00:24:13] are likely to be women who are

[00:24:15] separated or divorced from their

[00:24:16] partners.

[00:24:18] Let's see, it goes on to say I

[00:24:20] don't want to like bore you guys

[00:24:21] with all these stats, but

[00:24:24] this is when comparing homicide

[00:24:26] suicide incidents to homicides.

[00:24:28] Research suggests that the

[00:24:29] perpetrator is more likely

[00:24:30] to die by suicide when the

[00:24:31] motive is related to possessive

[00:24:33] no jealousy, sickness

[00:24:34] or stress.

[00:24:36] And these incidents are more

[00:24:37] likely to be premeditated than

[00:24:38] a homicide alone.

[00:24:40] What's really interesting and it

[00:24:41] seems like that analysis

[00:24:43] would fit with a lot of what was

[00:24:45] going on in this scenario.

[00:24:47] Both you and Ned were under an

[00:24:48] immense amount of stress due to

[00:24:49] the upcoming retrial

[00:24:51] and it's possible that there is

[00:24:52] history of depression or mental

[00:24:53] illness with

[00:24:55] with Hugh and

[00:24:57] Ned's efforts to get Hugh

[00:24:59] into a treatment facility.

[00:25:01] There's a lot going on.

[00:25:02] Yeah, I agree. Like when you

[00:25:03] hear those clinical factors,

[00:25:04] it does seem to fit.

[00:25:05] But there are a lot of other

[00:25:06] theories here as well.

[00:25:08] One theory is that Lucy walked

[00:25:10] in on Ned and Hugh in an intimate

[00:25:11] moment and flew into a rage,

[00:25:13] shooting and killing them both.

[00:25:16] Now, supporters of this theory go

[00:25:17] on to note that Lucy remarried

[00:25:18] fairly quickly after Ned's death,

[00:25:20] almost a year to the day to be

[00:25:22] exact and continue to live

[00:25:23] with her new husband at

[00:25:25] Greystone Mansion for 26 years.

[00:25:27] So that brings up something

[00:25:28] really interesting.

[00:25:29] You mentioned that do he need

[00:25:30] senior so Graystone mansion

[00:25:31] and Ned for ten dollars,

[00:25:33] which means that despite the

[00:25:34] fact that senior built it

[00:25:35] and paid for it, it was Ned's

[00:25:37] legal property. So have gone to

[00:25:38] his wife upon his death.

[00:25:40] I wonder how that would work now.

[00:25:41] Like when parents purchase a home

[00:25:42] for their kids, ours didn't.

[00:25:43] But if parents are going to

[00:25:45] purchase homes for their kids

[00:25:46] now, if they pay for in cash,

[00:25:48] can they turn around and sell it

[00:25:49] to the kids for a nominal amount

[00:25:50] like like the dad did?

[00:25:52] You know, I don't know.

[00:25:53] I mean, I think that's a really

[00:25:54] good question.

[00:25:55] Probably requires a call to my

[00:25:57] fabulous accountant.

[00:25:58] But from my experience,

[00:26:00] like the only clients I've had

[00:26:01] purchasing a home for their

[00:26:03] children have been parents

[00:26:05] purchasing for like a single

[00:26:06] child. So maybe somebody's

[00:26:07] starting grad school or just

[00:26:08] finishing school. I haven't run

[00:26:09] into a situation where a parent

[00:26:11] purchases a home for a child

[00:26:13] that has a family of their own

[00:26:15] that would be entitled to it

[00:26:16] after the death.

[00:26:17] Yeah, I mean, I was I spent a

[00:26:18] little bit of time looking into

[00:26:20] this and then this is where we

[00:26:21] really would need the accountant

[00:26:22] to talk about how at least it

[00:26:24] is today. But it isn't

[00:26:26] completely uncommon for my

[00:26:28] research because people are

[00:26:30] trying to get around the

[00:26:31] capital gains tax and

[00:26:32] and then the laws

[00:26:34] regarding a gifting

[00:26:36] taxes are different

[00:26:38] than just the inheritance taxes.

[00:26:40] So there's some complexity here,

[00:26:42] but I have a feeling that it

[00:26:44] wasn't entirely uncommon

[00:26:46] at this time as a tax strategy.

[00:26:49] Well, and you know, going back

[00:26:50] to this theory about did Lucy

[00:26:53] shoot and kill both men?

[00:26:54] You know, I'm also not sure

[00:26:55] that marrying a year after

[00:26:57] your husband's death in like

[00:26:58] the late 1920s, early

[00:26:59] 1930s is that odd.

[00:27:01] I think it would have been

[00:27:01] pretty common for the time.

[00:27:03] Remember, they also had like

[00:27:04] she had like five kids and I'm

[00:27:07] considering I bet she was quite

[00:27:08] the catch with this house.

[00:27:11] Yeah, that I didn't put this

[00:27:13] in our outline, but there was

[00:27:15] a story by maybe one of her

[00:27:17] grandkids after she died that

[00:27:19] said that like till the day

[00:27:20] she died, she would get up

[00:27:21] every morning and get dressed

[00:27:22] and like be ready for a

[00:27:23] luncheon appointment.

[00:27:24] You know, she seemed like a

[00:27:25] really fabulous lady.

[00:27:27] So anyway, there is another

[00:27:29] theory that maybe carries a

[00:27:30] little more weight.

[00:27:32] This theory goes that Ned

[00:27:33] committed suicide and Hugh

[00:27:35] in a state of shock and then

[00:27:37] despair turned the gun on

[00:27:39] himself.

[00:27:40] And there is at least one piece

[00:27:41] of information that seems to

[00:27:42] back this up.

[00:27:43] The Doheny family chose not to

[00:27:45] bury Hugh in the Catholic

[00:27:46] cemetery where the rest of

[00:27:48] the family was buried.

[00:27:49] Instead, laying him to rest

[00:27:50] at Forest Lawn Cemetery in

[00:27:51] Glendale, not too far from

[00:27:53] where Hugh Plunkett was also

[00:27:55] laid to rest.

[00:27:56] Oh, because of suicide?

[00:27:57] Because of suicide, right?

[00:27:59] Additionally, you weren't

[00:28:01] supposed to be buried in the

[00:28:03] Catholic cemetery if you had

[00:28:04] suicide.

[00:28:05] And the family

[00:28:07] was had a strong

[00:28:10] Catholicism faith.

[00:28:12] But yeah, Hugh, but he was

[00:28:14] buried literally like in the

[00:28:16] same cemetery yards

[00:28:18] away, yards away from Hugh.

[00:28:20] Interesting.

[00:28:21] And I think I even read

[00:28:22] somewhere that I don't know

[00:28:24] if you're going to say this

[00:28:25] like the wife's

[00:28:28] maybe brother or somebody like

[00:28:29] was a pallbearer for Hugh.

[00:28:31] I mean, like even after this,

[00:28:34] the families were a little

[00:28:35] intertwined.

[00:28:37] Yeah. And I think the thought

[00:28:38] process here is that the family

[00:28:40] wanted to keep a suicide hush

[00:28:41] hush. And so they put

[00:28:43] pressure on the authorities and

[00:28:45] the press to report it the way

[00:28:46] they wanted it reported in

[00:28:48] order to just keep everything

[00:28:50] quiet.

[00:28:52] But Ned was shot in the back

[00:28:53] of the head.

[00:28:54] He was shot in the head.

[00:28:56] OK. I don't know that we

[00:28:57] know that was the back of the

[00:28:58] head.

[00:28:59] OK, I'm not sure.

[00:29:01] I think you might have said the

[00:29:02] back of the head.

[00:29:03] OK, unclear.

[00:29:07] So what is your theory?

[00:29:08] Like what do you think happened?

[00:29:10] I think Lucy did it.

[00:29:12] Do you just want her to do it?

[00:29:14] No, I really think that she

[00:29:15] did it. OK.

[00:29:16] That doesn't make any sense.

[00:29:18] If well, I guess a lot depends

[00:29:20] on where he was shot.

[00:29:21] If he was shot in the back of

[00:29:22] the head, I don't think that

[00:29:23] was suicide.

[00:29:24] And I don't feel like Hugh

[00:29:25] killed him because why would he

[00:29:28] just be in there for 30 minutes

[00:29:29] with the body?

[00:29:30] Like I feel like if it was like a

[00:29:31] heat of the moment kind of thing,

[00:29:33] it would have been like killed

[00:29:34] him and then killed himself

[00:29:35] quickly.

[00:29:36] I don't know. I think that

[00:29:37] happens.

[00:29:37] Like I think you hear in some

[00:29:38] of these families sees murder

[00:29:40] suicides where they might

[00:29:42] kill family members

[00:29:43] and then they they're

[00:29:46] calling the cops and their

[00:29:48] negotiators.

[00:29:48] Maybe I'm thinking about movies

[00:29:50] and TV shows once again.

[00:29:51] We've covered a couple of

[00:29:52] those stories where it's been

[00:29:54] the dad and they've killed

[00:29:55] like one kid at a time over the

[00:29:57] course of 48 hours or something.

[00:29:59] Yeah, but they were just in that

[00:30:00] room together, right?

[00:30:01] That's true.

[00:30:02] And then for 30 minutes and then

[00:30:04] what was Lucy doing?

[00:30:05] And then how did she get the

[00:30:05] doctor there? I have a lot of

[00:30:07] questions.

[00:30:07] I feel like she did it.

[00:30:09] OK. Yeah.

[00:30:11] We know she loves a good

[00:30:12] conspiracy.

[00:30:13] She does. Yeah.

[00:30:14] All right. Well, ladies, do you

[00:30:15] want to know what happened to

[00:30:16] the house?

[00:30:16] Yeah.

[00:30:17] OK. So Lucy, fabulous Lucy

[00:30:19] continued living in the house

[00:30:20] with her second husband and

[00:30:21] children until 1955.

[00:30:24] When she sold it to real estate

[00:30:26] developer Paul Truesdale, who

[00:30:27] developed the grounds into the

[00:30:29] Truesdale Estates, a neighborhood

[00:30:31] of over 500 houses which Bloomberg

[00:30:33] recently named one of the 12

[00:30:35] most expensive neighborhoods in

[00:30:36] the United States.

[00:30:38] Do you know where that is, Mel?

[00:30:40] No.

[00:30:40] Truesdale Estates. OK.

[00:30:41] I should have looked that up.

[00:30:42] So the house itself was sold

[00:30:44] to Chicago industrialist

[00:30:45] Henry Crowne, who interestingly

[00:30:47] enough was the owner of the

[00:30:48] Empire State Building.

[00:30:49] Wow.

[00:30:50] And Crowne rented the property to

[00:30:52] film studios for several years.

[00:30:53] But when he made plans to

[00:30:55] demolish the house and

[00:30:56] subdivide the property, the

[00:30:58] city of Beverly Hills purchased

[00:30:59] the mansion in 1965 and turned

[00:31:01] it into a city park.

[00:31:03] Additionally, the city of

[00:31:04] Beverly Hills bought it to

[00:31:05] install a 19 million gallon

[00:31:07] water tank on the property as

[00:31:09] a tiltop site provided tremendous

[00:31:11] natural water pressure.

[00:31:13] The site continues to serve as

[00:31:15] the city of Beverly Hills's

[00:31:16] largest reservoir.

[00:31:17] That sounds ugly.

[00:31:20] I think they made it pretty.

[00:31:21] Oh, you should see these

[00:31:23] pictures. Oh, are they bad?

[00:31:24] No, they're beautiful.

[00:31:25] Oh, OK, OK.

[00:31:26] The reservoir, the tank.

[00:31:27] Oh, well, I guess I did not look

[00:31:29] at that. Oh, that's I was.

[00:31:30] Yeah, yeah.

[00:31:30] I was thinking of the grounds.

[00:31:32] Oh, I'm sure.

[00:31:33] Yeah. But the tank.

[00:31:34] So the home was added to the

[00:31:35] National Register of Historic

[00:31:36] Places in 1976 and has

[00:31:38] maintained its designation as

[00:31:40] a premier filming location.

[00:31:42] The 2007 film There Will Be

[00:31:44] Blood, which we mentioned

[00:31:45] earlier, is the film version

[00:31:47] of Upton Sinclair's book

[00:31:48] Oil and is loosely based on the

[00:31:50] life of Edward Doheny was

[00:31:52] filmed in part in the mansion.

[00:31:53] And prior to filming, the

[00:31:55] original Tulane Mullen Alley

[00:31:56] of Greystone Mansion was

[00:31:57] renovated in order to include it

[00:31:59] in the film.

[00:32:00] How cool is that? Super cool.

[00:32:02] Very.

[00:32:02] So today you can tour its

[00:32:04] gardens which are open to the

[00:32:05] public daily for no fee.

[00:32:06] Of course, you can also rent

[00:32:07] it out for weddings.

[00:32:09] Yeah, I was looking at

[00:32:10] pictures of the weddings and

[00:32:12] I'll make sure until my

[00:32:13] sister who lives in LA.

[00:32:15] She said.

[00:32:17] You're jumping the gun on an

[00:32:19] announcement.

[00:32:20] Her boyfriend might have just,

[00:32:21] you know, taken a big

[00:32:23] gulp if he was listening in the

[00:32:24] car with her on this one.

[00:32:25] But if she was ever to

[00:32:27] get married to Hinton Tint,

[00:32:29] it would make a beautiful

[00:32:30] location for an outdoor

[00:32:32] garden.

[00:32:32] All right. So I think I know

[00:32:35] how you'll both answer this

[00:32:37] one.

[00:32:37] But sometime you surprise me.

[00:32:39] Would you live there and

[00:32:40] would you list it?

[00:32:42] Yes.

[00:32:42] I think you would do both.

[00:32:44] Me too.

[00:32:44] Yeah.

[00:32:45] Yeah.

[00:32:45] Yeah. So we're all in

[00:32:47] agreement. We would all live

[00:32:48] there and we would all list it.

[00:32:49] I mean, I would probably live

[00:32:50] in like that.

[00:32:52] Well, real estate never sleeps.

[00:32:53] Hold on.

[00:32:57] Oh, I was just going to say I'd

[00:32:58] probably live in the five or

[00:32:59] six rooms that I could afford

[00:33:01] to maintain.

[00:33:02] I mean, 55 rooms seems

[00:33:04] a well true.

[00:33:05] A big ask.

[00:33:07] But you know, if

[00:33:09] finances are no problem,

[00:33:11] sure. Yeah, I'd love there.

[00:33:12] All right.

[00:33:13] Well, thanks ladies.

[00:33:15] I really enjoyed

[00:33:16] bringing this story to you.

[00:33:18] And now I'm going to look for

[00:33:19] Greystone Mansion and all of

[00:33:21] these movies and shows.

[00:33:23] I mean, the list of shows

[00:33:24] and movies that it goes

[00:33:27] on and on at least 50 deep.

[00:33:29] I mean, there's so many.

[00:33:30] And they run the gamut

[00:33:32] of things from like the 50s

[00:33:34] to today, which is kind of

[00:33:35] interesting. A lot of a lot

[00:33:36] of places you might see like

[00:33:37] more recent, but these are

[00:33:39] ones that have been there for

[00:33:40] a long period of time.

[00:33:41] So definitely go check

[00:33:44] it out if you're in LA

[00:33:45] and let us know if you do

[00:33:46] or if you've been to the gardens

[00:33:48] there.

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